QLAC Use Cases and Planning: EDU #2548
The Retirement and IRA Show
Jim Saulnier, CFP® & Chris Stein, CFP®
4.3 • 730 Ratings
🗓️ 26 November 2025
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
Chris’s Summary
Jim and I discuss QLAC use cases in the context of retirement income planning and how the Treasury Department designed these annuities to function. We walk through when someone might consider using one, how the absence of cash value affects planning decisions, differences among providers on turning income on early, the impact of mortality credits on later-life payouts, and how QLACs can help stabilize the post-delay period for people focused on long-term secure income.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I take a deeper dive into QLACs by taking what we talked about last week and looking closer at where these things might fit into a retirement plan. The Treasury Department set QLACs up with no cash value, which locks them straight into that verb-annuity world we often talk about. That design wasn’t about selling a new product—it came out of watching people’s IRAs get hammered in 2008 and realizing some retirees needed secure income for the older version of themselves. Like so much in retirement planning I see these products as part of the negotiation between the younger you and the older you.
The younger you has to decide how much certainty you want in the years when your body and your mind aren’t running at full speed. I talk about that all the time: we are degrading, and it doesn’t take much—like me tripping on a hike—to be reminded of it. A QLAC is one way to make life easier for the older you by guaranteeing income that covers the Minimum Dignity Floor
when you may not want to be making complex decisions. Some insurers let you turn income on earlier, some don’t, and those differences matter. Chris brings in sample quotes, and when you see what mortality credits can do in your 80s, you understand why people might actually consider using one.
Not everyone needs a QLAC. A lot of you value flexibility and liquidity, and that’s exactly what you give up when you commit to something with no cash value. What I point out here is how easily the conversation around these annuities drifts into investment comparisons when that’s not what they’re built on. QLACs are insurance products, tied to longevity and mortality credits, and that’s the context they belong in. Understanding them inside that framework—what they can do, what they can’t, and how their structure differs from account-based assets—is the real goal of this discussion.
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| 1:24.6 | Now here's Jim and Chris with today's show. |
| 1:29.2 | Hello and welcome to the Retirement and IRA show, EDU edition. On today's show, |
| 1:35.2 | we're going to continue our discussion on QLAX that we started. So qualifying longevity |
| 1:42.0 | annuity contracts, or in other words words deferred annuities that receive special |
| 1:48.3 | treatment when they are purchased within an IRA. |
| 1:52.9 | That special treatment has to do with how RMDs are dealt with when you're deferring the |
| 1:58.2 | income start date past your normal RMD age. |
| 2:01.7 | So we started talking about that last week. |
| 2:04.0 | We didn't finish everything we wanted to share with you. |
| 2:07.0 | So we're going to continue on today and talk a little bit. |
| 2:12.4 | I've got some QLAC quotes. |
| 2:14.2 | We promised to bring some actual quotes on QLAC. |
| 2:17.0 | So I've got a few of those to share |
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