Hey everybody, it's Ben Greenfield. This is one of those wake-up episodes where I actually

had an amazing person come up to my house here in Spokane, Washington, hang out for a couple

of days doing some amazing. In this case, Kettlebell and Chinese Chigong practices.

The guy's name is Chris Holder. Amazing, dude. This podcast was so much fun. We sat in my

office and he's this enormous like 350 plus pound former football player turned to Chigong

physician. And the guy is just amazing. Strength conditioning coach for a Cal Poly, I believe,

as well. Are there Cal Poly? Yeah, Cal Poly. Sandleys to Beespo, California.

And as you're going to enjoy this, all the show notes are at Ben Greenfield Fitness.com slash

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