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I would say I know quite a bit about all the different rabbit holes that have to do with the paranormal

and extraterrestrial contact and stuff.

But I've done the least amount of research on the secret space program.

And the reason I have done a very little research into it is because a lot of the experiences are very frightening that people talk

about they talk about the 20 and back they talk about m Ultra. They talk about being tortured by, you know, American black op organizations.

They talk about having to do terrible things in the solar system.

They talk about, you know, being killed and then brought back to life over and over

again and no escape possible. And to me, it's really, really terrifying. But I thought since I know

you quite well, I would bring you on. And I know that not everybody who experiences the Secret Space

program has the same experiences.

So I'm sure that they're not all the same.

But I thought I'd bring you on and talk to you about your experience.

And maybe we can start off with how it started and what your experiences so far have been like.

Yeah, absolutely. Like you had said in the introduction, which you absolutely nailed,

like September of last year, there was nothing in particular going on in my life. I had a

work-a-day job, a very good work-a-day job, you know,

it was gross. I was driving a septic truck, but it paid damn good money. And like,

nothing was really wrong with my life. And now my ears are ringing. That's funny. It just

seemed like I was having a work-a-day life, and then all of a sudden there was this

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