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So I thought we could start off with chapter one where you talk about UFO swarms.

So most of us think of UFO sightings as seeing, you know, a flashing light in the sky that's definitely not a plane and not an asteroid or anything like that and sometimes comes closer and then just disappears or darts off at an angle. Sometimes people see two or three,

but according to your book, it's not that unusual to see what we would call swarms of UFOs.

That would be kind of unsettling.

Do you want to tell us more about that?

I mean, it's not at all unusual to see multiple objects in the sky.

In fact, I was looking at encounters, and most, I'm not going to say most, but a good number of them do involve

multiple objects. One or two, three, four, not at all unusual to see five or ten or even

20. But once you start going above that, it's very unusual. And there are only a handful of cases

involving, you know, 50 or more objects.

I started looking into that after I got my own case during the Topanga Canyon UFO wave,

Topanga, of course, is right outside of Los Angeles, right along the coastline.

And on June 14, 1992, I don't know what happened. The sky's opened up.

People all over this little community, 8,000 residents or so back then started, we're seeing stuff.

I mean, they called the police. They called the local newspaper. I got some call. I ended up doing a really big investigation to it.

And on that night alone, I found like 30 separate, you know, independent adult witnesses

in various locations throughout the canyon. Who saw Kraft on that night? Some were driving down the road and one

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