Q&A: Trump's moral compass, the Nato summit and war crimes
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 June 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
The Nato summit in The Hague did get member states to agree on ramping up their defence spending - and seemed to placate Donald Trump. But has this week changed anything for Ukraine? What happened to the prior US “two-week deadline” to agree a ceasefire - and will those sought-after Patriot missiles ever arrive in Kyiv? Jamie Coomarasamy and Vitaly Shevchenko answer all that, and discuss the knotty details of prosecuting alleged war crimes with BBC Verify’s Olga Robinson and the Ukraine correspondent James Waterhouse. The producers were Laurie Kalus, Rufus Gray, and Polly Hope. The technical producer was Dafydd Evans. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.9 | It's 1,219 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.7 | This week, the NATO summit was held in the Hague, |
| 0:13.4 | with plenty of discussion about member states' commitments to spend more on defence, |
| 0:17.9 | but with a few rumbles about creative accounting and some outliers still |
| 0:23.1 | unwilling to pay out. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutter used plenty of flattery and charm to |
| 0:29.1 | keep President Trump's sweet and limited the amount of talk about threats from Russia. |
| 0:34.5 | Presidents Trump and Zelensky met behind closed doors for nearly an hour and both |
| 0:38.5 | emerged sounding positive about their talks. But has this week really changed anything for Ukraine? |
| 0:45.5 | You've been sending in lots of questions, so we have assembled a top team to try and answer them |
| 0:50.7 | in this episode of Ukrainecast. |
| 0:53.7 | Ukraine cast for babies and use. Life is episode of Ukrainecast. Ukraine cast from BBC News. |
| 0:56.3 | Life is not safe in Ukraine, nowhere in Ukraine. |
| 0:59.3 | We've had three years of bloody conflict now. |
| 1:01.3 | We need to get that lasting peace. |
| 1:03.4 | We hope we can finish this war this year. |
| 1:06.5 | President Trump will not allow anyone to turn Uncle Sam into Uncle Sucker. |
| 1:10.6 | Biden will just enemy. Trump is a rival. |
| 1:13.4 | Ukrainians will pay lives for this decision. |
| 1:15.5 | You're gambling with World War III. |
| 1:19.1 | Hello, this is Jamie Kimmer Asami in the Ukrainecast studio. |
| 1:22.4 | I'm Vitaly Shavchenko, and I'm also in the Ukraine Car Studio. |
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