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Ukrainecast

Q&A: Taurus missiles, kidnapped children, and the state of Russia’s military

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Is the Russian military weaker than at the start of the war? Will European allies expand their drone industries to aid Ukraine? And what has happened to Ukrainian children kidnapped by Russia?

We answer all that and discuss whether Germany will arm Ukraine with Taurus missiles, with Olga Ivshina from BBC Russian, and Mikey Kay, a former senior officer in the British military who hosts The Security Brief on BBC News.

Today’s episode is presented by Lucy Hockings and Vitaly Shevchenko.

The producers were Laurie Kalus, Ben Carter and Nik Sindle. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate and the senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.7

It's 1,191 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

0:11.5

And Vatali, we so often talk about the slow progress, the false hope we've had during this war.

0:17.6

But then there was that explosive rant from Donald Trump at the weekend.

0:22.0

He was furious and there was some reporting suggesting that the Kremlin is taking some

0:27.2

steps to flesh out potential details of the memorandum on future peace that we heard about

0:33.1

from Vladimir Putin. I mean, what do we know?

0:35.4

That's what the Kremlin says. They're saying they've been hard at work to flesh out

0:39.4

this memorandum with conditions for talks and a ceasefire, possibly and possibly a peace deal

0:47.6

with Ukraine. Reuters is quoting three unnamed Russian sources

0:54.4

as saying that Russia's conditions include a written pledge from NATO

1:00.8

not to expand eastward,

1:03.5

demands for some sort of protection of Russian speakers in Ukraine,

1:09.7

the lifting of some key sanctions and release of frozen Russian assets.

1:15.7

So essentially what we're dealing with here are the same excuses and pretext for invading Ukraine that we heard before.

1:26.3

And for the avoidance of doubt, I'll say again, that Russia was never under threat from NATO. And Russian speakers, such as myself, were never under threat from anybody in Ukraine. Well, that is until Russian forces raised whole Russian-speaking towns and cities in Ukraine. Now, Russia is saying that it's prepared to hand over

1:48.1

its memorandum to Ukraine next Monday, 2nd of June. It's not saying official and publicly what

1:55.7

exactly is going to be in that memorandum, but Ukraine is saying, why wait until Monday? Why don't you give it to us now?

2:02.3

And then we have something to talk about on Monday. So there's a lot of towing and throwing.

2:08.6

But they say they're going to hand it over to Ukraine. And yet many of the demands, it seems,

2:12.0

are actually directed at the West and things that are just not going to happen. I mean,

2:16.2

the West is not going to give.

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