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The Two Matts

Q&A: Taking on populists, who to vote for and an EU reformation

The Two Matts

The New World

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2023

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

In this Q&A episode Matt Kelly and Matthew d'Ancona answer questions on Jordan Peterson, the EU, podcasting, and politics. Can the use of humour counter charlatans and populists? Does the EU need to undergo reformation before the UK rejoins, and who should you vote for?


Thanks to Roland, Keith, Andrew, J.Wells and Micheal for their questions.


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journalism. Welcome to our regular question and answer session. Our happy Sunday. Our happy Sunday

1:02.6

where we spread joy and answers to the nation. First question, Matt. On Jordan Peterson,

1:09.2

whom we went to see and had a kind of PTSD account of on the poor few weeks back.

1:16.5

This is from Roland.

1:17.8

Thank you, Roland.

1:18.5

His popularity, in my view, is due to several factors.

1:21.8

His followers' sense of despair at the modern world.

1:24.5

His followers love of simplicity and blame.

1:30.3

An apparent, sometimes real sense that liberalism struggles with right and wrong and responsibility. I agree, he's a crock of shite,

1:35.4

says Roland. But apart from humour, how can such charlatans and populists be countered? How do we

1:41.5

make nuance and complexity attractive in an age of slogans? Very good question.

1:45.4

Thank you. Well, and forgive me for sticking on the thing you've said we have to move on from,

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