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Lincoln as Vice President.

Yeah, it's a hard thing to think about now, but there was a very reasonable chance that Lincoln was going to be vice president.

Guy from the West took on Douglas, so that was good within the party.

Favorite of a couple big publishers, very well

known across six states. But Seward was the man. So when I'm doing podcast about vice presidents,

I would have been talking about this obscure guy, Abraham Lincoln, from Illinois. Railroad

lawyer, good speaker, helped the Seward Lincoln ticket, and was never

heard from again.

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We're going to get into that and how Lincoln upended his chances, so that by the time you get the Republican Convention in 1860, Lincoln's not there, he's in Springfield, you know, awaiting results.

At that point, he knows he's a contender for the top job. The money was on sewer. So with

a big New York man. But Lincoln makes one speech, and he makes it at the Cooper Union,

and it changes everything. We're going to talk about the Cooper Union speech because he does

something else. He tells us a way to look at history. And that's going to be

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