This is the Craig Groschau Leadership Podcast.

A Bob, it is a great honor to have you on the Leadership Podcast.

I couldn't think of anybody that'd be more excited about sharing with our audience.

And I want to talk to you today about your perspective on leadership

and also celebrate and look at leadership through the lens of your new book

that just came out everybody always.

And I got to get this subtitle right,

becoming love in a world full of setbacks in difficult people.

Yeah.

Do you ever come across difficult people anywhere?

Everywhere, you're looking at one.

But first of all, thank you for being part of this.

It's just good to be with friends and talking about things that hopefully

matter for some of the people that are listening in.

I think I know it will.

Let's talk about leadership and difficult people.

More than anybody I know, I think you combine pragmatism and optimism

in the way you lead and the way you think in life.

I'm just curious, how do you, as a leader,

what advice would you have for people in an organization

that they're dealing with someone that might be critical, lazy,

not falling through the responsibilities?

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