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🗓️ 18 July 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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This Friday, Jon and Lewis answer your questions about the Afghan data leak - what were the legal loopholes? Why hasn’t the Speaker resigned? And is there a situation where you'd ever disobey a super injunction?
Later, why is the Labour party at war with Diane Abbott? And is the story of the couple caught having an affair at a Coldplay concert really a public interest story worth our attention?
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0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
0:08.8 | This is a global player original podcast. |
0:13.1 | Welcome to a special Q&A episode of the newsagents following this extraordinary week following the Afghan data breach |
0:24.6 | and all the court cases that Lewis has been at the centre of for the last two years. |
0:30.3 | And we start with a question from Dan Brack and Neil on Spotify. |
0:33.5 | Although the data breach and super injunction were bad, |
0:36.6 | why have the Labour government decided not to continue helping Afghan people who helped the UK? |
0:43.1 | It's a great question, Dan, and one that I, if you've listened to our interview with John Healy, which we did on Tuesday night, you will have heard me put to him. |
0:51.5 | I think the reason is, is that the government feels that given that thousands |
0:56.2 | and thousands of people have been brought to the UK, at least 7,000 of whom would never |
1:01.3 | have been brought to the UK, were it not for the fact they were on the data set, they |
1:04.7 | probably wouldn't have been eligible. If you asked John Healy about it, and he basically said |
1:08.7 | this to us at a sort of secret briefing that we had on Monday |
1:11.3 | night with the sort of relevant journalists in the sort of heart ministry defence. We were pressing |
1:15.1 | him on this then. And he said, look, it can't be the case that we have complete liability or |
1:20.6 | debt to 100,000 people. We can't, we're not in a position to take that many people from |
1:25.3 | Afghanistan. And I think, you know, that is a legitimate position. |
1:29.3 | But nonetheless, I think a lot of people will find curious the fact, and I certainly find |
1:32.9 | curious that, as I said, and I've been saying all week, I sat in that courtroom for two years, |
1:38.5 | and government lawyer after government lawyer after government lawyer said that the Secretary of State |
1:43.0 | believed, and that was initially Grant Shaps and then John Healy. The Secretary of State believed, and that was initially |
1:44.5 | Grant Shaps and then John Healy, the Secretary of State's position was that if knowledge of this |
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