Welcome, Dr. Mark's medical podcast.

I'm your host, Dr. Mark Todorovich, and today we are joined by my co-host Australian children's author and actor Arnd Doe. Welcome, Arn.

I really hate it when people use physiologically impossible analogies.

Oh, like what?

Makes my blood boil.

I finish reading Hail Mary.

Great.

It's a good book, isn't it?

For the second time.

And I don't want to give it away, but there's something about blood boiling in that book.

There's something...

Do I remind you of Rocky?

I don't, don't ruin the book for people.

You can't do that.

You can't do that.

There's a lot of people out there that haven't read, but Matt and I both recommend you read

Hail Mary. It's the author that

wrote The Martian. Like I said, second time I've read it. I love it because he goes through,

you know, the nitty-gritty details. He goes through some biology. He goes through the physics of

what it means to... Do you still envision Matt Damon? No. I do. No. I think, you know what's really interesting? The first time I read it, I read it with, you know, the book. And then second time was audiobook. And I didn't realize this. But because most of the, well, the book's in first person, right, from the perspective of the protagonist.

So you, when you read the book, are the protagonist.

But when you listen to it as an audio book, somebody's reading it to you and you're separated out from that.

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