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Dan Snow's History Hit

Pythagoras' Utopia

Dan Snow's History Hit

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🗓️ 23 December 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

What comes to your mind when you think of Pythagoras, the ancient Greek polymath? Some might think of the Pythagorean theorem, a foundational principle of mathematics. But he was also the enigmatic founder of Pythagoreanism, a mysterious secret society that strove to create a utopia on earth.


Today Dan is joined by Kristen Ghodsee, an ethnographer and author of Everyday Utopia. Kristen delves into this ancient social experiment, and talks about other attempts at paradise in the millennia since.


Produced by Mariana Des Forges and James Hickmann, and edited by Ella Blaxill.


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Hi everybody welcome to Dan Snow's history heads. Today I'm learning about the

0:56.2

history of utopias attempts that have been made that have actually been put

1:00.4

into practice to create a better world to create different kinds of societies which are not marked by brutal economic inequality

1:10.1

punishment rule and rulers and these utopias seem to have very interesting things in common.

1:16.5

No matter where they occur in time or in space on the planet, they pop up everywhere in all sorts

1:22.1

different periods, They pull resources. They think about raising children communally.

1:27.2

And they broaden the definition of family, of friends, of community. I've got a very cool scholar on the podcast she's been on before.

1:33.4

Christian Gossie is an American ethnographer. She's professor of Russian and

1:37.0

Eastern European Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. She's got a new book out.

1:40.7

It's called Every Day Utopia and she's going to take me right back to the beginning.

1:44.8

The first well-attested Utopia, that established by Pythagoras. You might think

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