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Putting the IRS in Charge of Speech

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2014

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

The IRS is a political agency. It's been used against political opponents going back to at least the 1960s. New proposed rules governing nonprofits that lobby Congress could muzzle those groups when they want to talk to their own members. David Keating is President of the Center for Competitive Politics.

Censorship Through the Tax Code: How the Proposed IRS Rules for Social Welfare Groups Stifle Political Activity


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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, March 11, 2014.

0:06.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:07.0

Proposed rules by the IRS would chill a great deal of speech

0:10.0

from some of the most respected activist groups in the United States.

0:13.4

It's hard to find someone to defend the new rules governing 501c4 organizations.

0:18.4

David Keating, president of the Center for Competitive Politics, argues the job of deciding what speech is allowed

0:24.8

and what isn't shouldn't fall to the IRS.

0:28.0

Well the IRS is what they've technically proposed is called a notice of proposed rulemaking.

0:35.0

NPRM, the lawyers like to say.

0:38.0

And what the IRS has done is proposed a new set of rules to guide

0:42.0

what is the definition of political activity

0:45.0

under the Internal Revenue Code. And not surprisingly, given how they define

0:50.7

political activity, that's caused a firestorm of opposition.

0:55.8

You not only see average people responding, but you see organizations that span the political spectrum from labor unions to

1:05.2

progressive groups to Tea Party groups to think tanks to the Center for

1:10.4

Competitive Politics and the Institute for Justice among others. Center for

1:13.6

justice among others. So everyone is thinks the IRS has gone way too far in

1:19.0

defining what counts as political activity. This is something that the IRS has, if I understand the law correctly, no jurisdiction.

1:30.0

If we think of what the FEC is supposed to do, how does the IRS get the ability to dictate what is this political speech?

1:42.0

Well, I mean that's a great question that what the IRS would say is Congress passed the Internal Revenue Code.

1:50.0

They set up a portion of the code governing tax-exempt

1:54.8

tax-exempt organizations and there's many different types of tax-exempt

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