When his wife became pregnant with their fourth child Greg panicked, but a focus on the family counselor put everything into perspective.

He said, the first thing you need to realize if kids are a blessing, or all of the

blessing, that their gifts from God, and the second thing you said was, kids value

relationships, not stuff. Greg and his wife found the encouragement they needed and today they have a happy thriving family of seven children.

We have been really influenced by the culture and by just the kind of overall negativity about kids and to hear from someone, you know,

just godly truth that kids are special, that they're wanted and that they're a blessing was huge to us.

I'm Jim Daly and we love kids.

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I think it's pretty true that we all long to feel loved, but some people think we can find that through better,

emotional or even sexual intimacy with our spouse.

True intimacy, though, is going to be found,

I would suggest, in a deeper relationship with God.

I'm John Fuller, along with authors, counselors,

and fellow focus on the family staff members, Dr.

Greg Smalley and his wife Aaron and you two both work a lot with couples.

If they have a deep serious problem how consistent is it that something is

amiss spiritually in one or both of those two people? Well I think it's often. I know that even recently, I was this, I was feeling super down. I was feeling depressed. I just, Aaron and I weren't connecting and so we ended up going on a walk

together and as we talked, the more we processed kind of what was going on for me,

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