This is the Kator Daily Podcast for Friday, April 27, 2018.

I'm Caleb Brown.

As other countries have risen in wealth, productivity, and prominence over the last several

decades, American leadership around the globe is being

challenged. So what does American decline actually mean? And how should the United

States change the way it engages with the world in light of the shifting

geopolitical landscape.

Chris Preble, Vice President for Defense and Foreign Policy

Studies at the Cato Institute explains.

Your piece in the New York Times is headlined,

adapting to American decline.

And of course, nobody wants to think about,

nobody in America wants to think about America

being in decline.

What do people mean by that and what did you mean to say in the piece?

Sure. Well it's right that I didn't I didn't choose that headline and I think they never do they never do and I and I think it definitely sort of

Can get the conversation off on the right track although I have to say that from the response I received, most people didn't get too hung up on it.

The point is simply this.

The fact that America's relative power, that is relative to other countries in the world has declined since at least

since the end of the of World War II frankly or since the end of the Cold War is undisputed that no one can

question, but of course we're starting from an artificial or state of affairs.

At the end of World War II, most of the rest of the world was completely destroyed by war.

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