All right, Alexander, let's talk about the SEO meeting, which is coming up in a couple of days now, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a meeting where Putin will be present in person.

He's actually going to be making quite a big trip to China long, a long stay in China for four days.

Yes.

In China, he will be at the SCO, and then he's going to also attend the World War II event as well.

Your thoughts on this?

Yeah, it's a very big event.

Putin obviously is going to be perhaps the most

important single guest, because obviously China's major friend is Russia. I mean, again,

people want sometimes to downplay the importance of this, but China and Russia now are working

extremely closely together and their trade and economic and their science and their

defense cooperation is developing all of the time and it will continue to do so.

But of course it's not just Putin.

Modi is also going.

And over the last couple of days, we've had intense interactions between all of these three

key states, China, India, Russia, Jai Shankar, the Indian foreign minister has just been to Russia,

where he's met Putin. Before Jay Shankar, the Modi's national security adviser,

Ajit Dahl, was also in Moscow, and he also met Putin.

Putin has had two telephone conversations with Modi over the last week, I believe.

So you can see there's an awful lot of interaction.

He's also spoken to Lula.

You could see that all of these leaders are now interacting and talking and discussing and preparing for this set of meetings.

That is going to happen in China, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

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