Putin-Ukraine Escalation: Lessons from an Obama Pentagon official & a NY Times columnist - with Evelyn Farkas & Bret Stephens
Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
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🗓️ 28 January 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | many Americans just don't understand that if Putin gets away with getting control over Ukraine, |
| 0:05.2 | he's not going to stop there. |
| 0:06.8 | He's going to try to have control over other parts of the former Soviet Union. |
| 0:10.8 | He's going to try to continue to weaken NATO. He does not want democracies |
| 0:15.7 | challenging him and his autocratic system. Is it too late to deter Russia from invading Ukraine? |
| 0:35.0 | It certainly seems that way. |
| 0:37.0 | And while it's obvious to me that it does matter, at least as far as US interests are concerned, |
| 0:42.0 | I'm struck by how much people are posing versions |
| 0:44.6 | of this question. |
| 0:46.2 | Does it really matter? |
| 0:47.8 | What are the stakes of a Russia invasion of Ukraine? |
| 0:51.2 | In fact, these are some of the questions I've received in response to our most |
| 0:54.7 | recent episodes on the Russia-Ukraine crisis, the conversations we had with Walter Russell Mead, |
| 0:59.6 | and before that with Richard Fontaine. So on this episode we attempt to answer these |
| 1:06.1 | questions by calling on two experts who come at global affairs from |
| 1:10.2 | somewhat different perspectives. Dr. Evelyn Farkas served as a top |
| 1:14.5 | defense policy advisor in the Obama administration. Evelyn was Deputy |
| 1:19.3 | Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia, Balkans, Caucasus, and |
| 1:24.0 | conventional arms control. Prior to that, she was senior advisor to the |
| 1:28.2 | Supreme Allied Commander Europe and special advisor to the Secretary of Defense for the NATO Summit. |
| 1:35.0 | Earlier, Evelyn was Executive Director of the Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction, |
| 1:40.6 | proliferation, and terrorism. |
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