All right, Alexander, let's talk about the Putin-Trump phone call, and we also have

U.S. President Trump meeting with Zelensky today.

So let's talk, let's start off with the phone call from yesterday.

Kind of came out of the blue, but they had a two-hour phone call. Some reports say a little less than two hours.

Other reports say two and a half hours, but either way, a long phone call between the Russian

president and the U.S. president. And it is my understanding that this was initiated by Putin,

by Russia.

That's what Uschikov said in the radar, right?

Well, not actually, not actually in the readout.

Other sections of the Russian media are saying this.

But if you look at the Russian readout, there is no reference

to who initiated the call at all.

The Russian media says...

Some sections that the Russian media are saying it, but Ushekov does not say who initiated

the call. And I mean, I think it's likely that it was Putin.

But anyway, what I will say is it was a very, very interesting readout and quite different from readouts that we've had from Ushikov in the past.

And perhaps explain some things about some of the things that there's very strange things that

have been happening over the course of the last week. But as you absolutely rightly say,

came out of the blue and on the eve of Zelensky's arrival in Washington. So shall I discuss the readout? Because the reader is actually interesting. Well, yeah, let's discuss the readout? Because the readout is actually interesting.

Well, yeah, let's discuss the readout. But also let's hear your thoughts about the fact

that it does look like it appears as if Putin did initiate that call. That does tell us something

if it is true. Well, if it is true,

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