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Welcome to Navarra Live. I'm Helena, aka No Justice MTG. It is Thursday, therefore it's a ladies' night,

and I'm joined by the cream of the co-host crop, Dalia Gabriel. Dalia, how are you doing tonight?

I'm good. I'm very sorry that I couldn't join you in the studio today, but I'm hoping from next week,

I will, well, when we come back after the Christmas

break, we'll be able to be in the studio together, which I think will be super exciting. I've missed

the double host or sort of in-studio vibe. We've not had it for like four years, but yeah,

I'm super excited to be in the studio with you. The feeling is always,

always mutual. I can't wait to get my first two hosts set up, which I'll be doing tomorrow

with Michael Walker. Coming up tonight, two processes have been arrested on suspicion of chanting

globalized the infidavada. Trump's chief of staff has given a tell-all interview on the chaos within the White House,

and we speak to Palestinian artist Nibaghuti about the Gaza charity single being pitched for Christmas number one.

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Our top story tonight.

A European Union summit kicked off today, but it's no friendly affair.

Likely to be one of the most fraught and consequential of the bloc's recent history,

the key question is whether to turn 90 billion euros worth of frozen Russian assets over to Ukraine

in the form of a loan. Kiev has said that without extra funding, Ukraine will run out of money

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