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Ukrainecast

Putin’s Perspective

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

We speak to a Russian politician...

Yevgeny Popov, Deputy of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, speaks to Frank Gardner and Victoria Derbyshire, and says that Russia felt “bullied” into invading Ukraine. He’s challenged on his belief that Nato is the aggressor, and his claims are analysed with the help of Sam de Bendern, a former Nato Ukraine political officer.

Today's Ukrainecast was made by Alix Pickles and Chris Flynn. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The assistant editor was Sam Bonham.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

Hello, it's the 55th day of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and it's a couple of days also

0:11.3

since Vitaly's mum and aunt arrived in the UK after fleeing Ukraine and traveling with

0:17.9

Ukraine castleist note, Richard.

0:19.9

What a threat for Richard, you made it.

0:23.2

And I've got to be honest, honestly, it was one of the most joyful, Easter Sundays

0:29.8

I've ever experienced.

0:30.8

Yeah.

0:31.8

Oh, it's a three-year-old.

0:33.8

Three-year-old.

0:34.8

Honestly, I didn't really know what to expect when I was thinking about meeting Vitaly's

0:41.8

mum and his auntie, and Ella, his mum, just walked downstairs, and I said hello, and

0:51.3

she spoke to me in Ukrainian, and then I said, are we shaking hands or are we hugging?

0:57.7

And then we just hugged, and then she started to cry, so I hugged her again.

1:03.8

I felt really privileged to be part of that family for a few hours, if that makes sense.

1:08.8

I hope that doesn't sound too sentimental, but that's genuinely how I felt.

1:13.4

Oh, boy.

1:14.4

Yeah, let's take a photo.

1:15.4

Oh.

1:16.4

And judging from the responses that we've had from you around the world, you were moved

1:22.1

as well.

1:23.9

This is Janet Ski, on email, I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes, such an amazing

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