Bikarl Kortikovsky was a Russian oligug.

At one point, the richest man in the country.

But he crossed a familiar red line in Russia.

He took on Vladimir Putin.

And up to 10 years in jail and trumped up charges,

he was eventually pardoned and fled to Britain.

Well, he now lives in exile.

He's known as Putin's oldest enemy,

and then his first debut since the death of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

Mikhail Kourikovsky is here and unsensitive.

To say that Putin is not legitimate.

You have to prove that Putin is not legitimate.

It would be a very important step to weaken his resources.

First show your strength that talk to him from the position of strength.

And then talk to him the way you talk to gangsters.

Sorry for Taka Carlson.

The criticism was by the people who don't understand that he is on the territory of a gangster.

He's talking to a gangster.

Mikhail, thank you very much indeed for coming in.

Your reaction, first of all, to the death of Alexei Navalny?

My first reaction was

We don't believe it.

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