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Putin's Internet Crackdown

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Vladimir Putin has always regarded the internet with suspicion. Now, with western tech companies pulling out of Russia and control of the war narrative slipping, he sees an opening. Will Putin wall off Russia from the rest of the digital world?


Guests:

Yana Pashaeva, Moscow-based journalist

Justin Sherman, fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Cyber Statecraft Initiative


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0:00.0

I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time.

0:10.0

Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is

0:13.6

then sweaty armpits because like you're wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps

0:17.9

and heath and you get to the top and you're like and then you can see the breath

0:22.2

but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

0:25.0

Joy in every sip with red carp snown back at Starbucks.

0:34.0

On Wednesday it did a zoom call with Yana Pashiva. She's a journalist in Moscow and she

0:39.6

happens to be a former intern for sleep. How are you? Are you doing okay?

0:45.2

I don't know. I'm really frustrated like every day you have

0:49.0

a new bunch of news about companies leaving and life is getting like less and less comfortable

0:59.3

and we can't withdraw dollars anymore and our currency is just turning into papers.

1:06.3

People are leaving the country and other people I think should we also leave?

1:12.1

Yeah so it's just anxious. Yana found out about the invasion of Ukraine when she woke up

1:18.4

to a bunch of early morning text messages from friends overseas.

1:22.7

I went immediately on social media. My whole Facebook was full of

1:29.9

posts of people who were frustrated, depressed, they were crying and expressing their

1:37.5

disappointment, helplessness. And then I went on media platforms and

1:44.6

there were those horrible footages of some buildings, bombed fires,

1:54.0

shale in.

1:58.8

I wanted Yana to give me a sense of what it's like to try to get on the internet in Russia now

2:03.8

and get information, what you can see and what you can't.

2:08.4

How have you been able to keep up with what's happening? Where do you check to get

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