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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Putin’s Hunger for Money

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Bill Browder has been sounding the alarm about Vladimir Putin for decades. Formerly one of Russia’s largest foreign investors, Browder has made it his life's work to expose corruption in the country. Unsurprisingly, he’s one of Putin's personal targets. Browder believes that money is what's really driving the war in Ukraine. Guest: Bill Browder, founder and CEO of Hermitage Capital Management. Browder ran the largest foreign investment firm in Russia until 2005, when he was kicked out of the country. His new book is Freezing Order: A True Story of Money Laundering, Murder, and Surviving Vladimir Putin's Wrath.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sam Mendes presents Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, an audible original drama.

0:05.6

The young gentleman's name would be...

0:08.3

Oliver, Oliver Twist.

0:10.7

...with Brian Cox as Fagan.

0:12.9

What have you seen?

0:14.1

Street boy.

0:14.9

Nicola Cochlan as Nancy and Daniel Caluia as Bill Sykes.

0:19.3

Oh, look at me like a hello to my lawyer.

0:21.3

I love you, baby.

0:22.3

...with original music by Dan Gillespie Cells.

0:25.7

Subscription required, see audible.co.uk for terms.

0:31.8

There's something so romantic about winter and I don't know whether that's just because I'm bit the homebody and I love a five.

0:37.9

But I think it's just the holiday period.

0:40.1

It's just for me, it's the most romantic period.

0:44.0

And I think anyone who's listened to my records will know that I'm quite a big fan of romance.

0:48.8

Joy in every sip with red cups now back at Starbucks.

1:04.7

Bill Browder wanted to make lots of money, but not for the usual reasons.

1:11.5

It was a strange motivation.

1:12.8

I come from an unusual American family, my grandfather was the head of the Communist Party of America.

1:21.2

And my father was a left-wing, left-leaning professor.

1:27.1

And so in my teenage rebellion I decided to put on a suit and tie and become a capitalist to upset my family.

1:37.6

He went to Stanford Business School.

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