Summary
We speak to Bill Browder... Lyse Doucet, the BBC's chief international correspondent, and Vitaliy Shevchenko, find out how he became an enemy of the Russian state. We learn about how a monument to Russian-Ukrainian friendship was torn down by officials in Kyiv, about UN general-secretary Antonio Guterres’ trip to Ukraine and about how Ukrainian forces are attempting to retake Kherson. Finally, we catch up with Maksim Kilderov, the artist from Nova Kakhovka who we spoke to in late March, and Johnny Doyle, the man who raised funds to get Maxim to safety in western Ukraine. Today's Ukrainecast was made by Phil Marzouk with Lauren Stanley, Osman Iqbal, Ben Cooper and Miranda Slade. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The assistant editor was Sam Bonham.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | It's 64 days since the invasion of Ukraine |
| 0:08.3 | by Russian forces. |
| 0:10.0 | And we've never talked on this podcast |
| 0:12.0 | about this huge statue in central Kiev |
| 0:15.7 | called Friendship of People's. |
| 0:18.2 | Underneath a huge arch, called the Arch of the Friendship |
| 0:22.3 | of People's, and it's there to symbolize |
| 0:25.2 | the friendship between the Russian and Ukrainian people, |
| 0:29.7 | and the shared history. |
| 0:31.6 | Before the invasion, when we could stand on the balconies |
| 0:35.6 | of Kiev, I could see this arch on the horizon, |
| 0:40.4 | and it fascinated me because, as you know, |
| 0:43.5 | there's a crack in it that was actually the designer put |
| 0:46.6 | the crack into the search after Russia invaded Crimea |
| 0:50.3 | and Russian-backed separatists went into the Donbass in 2014. |
| 0:54.2 | It became part of the statue. |
| 0:56.1 | Yes, that's when the cracks started to appear. |
| 0:59.9 | And now, earlier this week, the statue underneath the arch |
| 1:04.4 | got dismantled. |
| 1:05.6 | The statue was, there was a man, and a woman. |
| 1:08.2 | The man was a Russian worker. |
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