Putin, Russia, and the End of History

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🗓️ 15 December 2017

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Vladimir Putin just announced, to the surprise of no one, that he will run for reelection as President of Russia. In her January/February 2018 Atlantic cover story, Julia Ioffe writes that Americans misunderstand the man ruling the former Soviet empire: he’s not a master tactician playing three-dimensional chess, he’s a gambler who won big. "Over the past year, Russian hackers have become the stuff of legend in the United States," Julia writes. "But most Russians don’t recognize the Russia portrayed in this story." What do they see that we don't? How does America look right now from their vantage point? And what does Vladimir Putin ultimately want? Julia joins our hosts, along with Atlantic global editor Kathy Gilsinan, to discuss. If you listen to Radio Atlantic, we value your feedback. Please help us out by answering a quick survey. It should only take a few minutes. Just to go www.theatlantic.com/podcastsurvey. Links – “What Putin Really Wants” (Julia Ioffe, January/February 2018 Issue) – “Vladimir Putin, Action Man” (Alan Taylor, September 13, 2011) – “How the Kremlin Tried to Rig the Olympics, and Failed” (Julia Ioffe, December 6, 2017) – “It Took Two to Make Russian Meddling Effective” (Julia Ioffe, June 23, 2017) – “Putin’s Inauguration: Satire and Violence” (Julia Ioffe, The New Yorker, May 7, 2012) – "Why Do They Stay?" (Hilzoy, Obsidian Wings, April 10, 2009) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	These days Russia is ubiquitous in American news.
0:03.7	Yet for all the focus on Russia, the country itself remains something of a cipher and
0:07.9	misimpressions about it abound.
0:10.1	Within the country at this moment, America, the world, and the past century look very different
0:15.8	than outside its borders.
0:18.0	What preoccupies Russia's ordinary citizens?
0:21.1	And what does Vladimir Putin really want?
0:24.0	This is Radio Atlantic. Hi, I'm Matt Thompson, executive editor of The Atlantic and over in New York is my esteemed co-host Alex
0:44.3	Hello Greetings and salutations friends and salutations to you
0:49.3	we return this week and in the most recent issue of the Atlantic to a place that has preoccupied the American attention for a solid year now, Russia.
0:59.0	In the latest cover story of the magazine, our staff writer Julia Yafi gave us a vivid picture
1:04.3	of Russia at this moment en route to answering the question what does Vladimir
1:07.9	Putin really want and Julia joins us today welcome Julia.
1:12.0	Hello welcome joins us today. Welcome, Julia. Hello, welcome. Or should we say,
1:17.0	Privet?
1:18.0	Strasto It you.
1:19.0	Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
1:21.0	Uh-oh. I'm just throwing all every Russian word I've ever.
1:26.4	You and Roy Moore.
1:27.4	Rounding out our roundtable is the atlanix brilliant global editor, Kathy Gilson and
1:32.3	Kathy at long last welcome to the table.
1:34.5	Oh thanks, hi guys.
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