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The DSR Network

Putin, Prigozhin, Russia & Wagner Have All Been Weakened...and are More Resilient Than Many Might Think or Hope

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

As more becomes clear about the Prigozhin insurrection and as Vladimir Putin and Russia respond, new questions are emerging about how Moscow manages the aftermath of the assault and what that might mean in Russia, Ukraine and around the world. We discuss with two experts, Angela Stent of Georgetown University and independent journalist and Wagner expert, Jack Margolin. It's a great discussion. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to our podcast. I'm David Rothka, your host, coming to you from Washington, DC.

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And today, as you might have expected, we're going to do a special deep dive into the events in

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Russia and environments the past few days. We are extremely fortunate to have a friend of ours,

1:54.3

Angela Stent, who's the Director Emerida of the Center for Eurasian, Russian, and East Asian

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Studies, and Professor Emerida of Government and Foreign Service at Georgetown University.

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And her latest book is Putin's World Russia Against the West and with the rest 2019.

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She's an expert not just in Russia, but also in Putin. How are you today, Angela?

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I'm fine, thank you. Well, nice to see you. And we are also joined by Jack Bargolan, who's an

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independent journalist and a research with a particular focus on private Russian military

2:35.3

companies, which of course is relevant here because it includes Yavgeni Pregozhin and the Wagner

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Group. Hi, Jack, how are you? Doing great. Been very busy. I can well imagine that you have.

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