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The Gist

Putin Plays the Long Game

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2016

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

As Michael McFaul knows well, sometimes the interests of the United States and the interests of Exxon Mobil don't line up. "You have to find oil where it is … and that tends to be controlled by autocrats around the world, and you have to do deals with them," says McFaul, who was America's ambassador to Russia from 2012 to 2014. Here, McFaul weighs in on the Rex Tillerson nomination for secretary of state, Russia's likely hacking of the U.S. election, and Putin's designs in the Baltics. For the Spiel, what we know about Trump's plan for Taiwan.    Today's sponsors: Soothe. For a massage delivered right to your door, go to Soothe.com. Use code GIST at checkout and you'll get $30 towards your first massage. And LifeAfter.What happens to our digital lives when we're gone? LifeAfter, a new series from GE Podcast Theater and Panoply, the creators of last year's award-winning The Message, explores these very questions. Listen and download LifeAfter wherever you find your podcasts. Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:07.8

It's Tuesday, December 13th, 2016 from Slated to the Gist I, Mike Pesca.

0:12.9

It took Rick Perry almost six years, but he got what he was aiming for.

0:17.6

And by the way, that was the Department of Energy I was reaching for a while ago.

0:22.0

Rick Perry's reach did not exceed his grasp.

0:24.5

He's Donald Trump's pick to run a department.

0:26.6

He thinks it shouldn't exist.

0:28.4

Maybe he thinks it doesn't exist.

0:29.8

They told him it was this off the books black ops site.

0:32.8

I guess every policeman and his heart of hearts does a job he thinks shouldn't exist.

0:37.6

Yeah, that's probably not true.

0:39.3

I mean, Rick Perry was a successful governor of the second biggest state in America.

0:44.3

He probably deserves better than to be remembered for one gaff.

0:49.4

So what does he do?

0:50.6

He takes a job that will remind everyone of this one gaff every day

0:56.0

for the rest of his time as Secretary of Energy.

0:58.5

It's like Dan Quell playing Jack Kennedy in a new bio pick.

1:02.6

I am Jack Kennedy.

1:03.7

I am.

1:04.5

It's like Howard Dean establishing a domestic only travel agency.

1:09.5

It's as if Martin Van Buren sold out of a little van, a product called mustache wax

1:16.8

for sweet sandy whiskers.

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