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THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Putin May Use Nukes in Ukraine As Last Resort + A Conversation with General Mark Hertling

THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Audio Up Media

Politics, News

4.88.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

An amazing, on the ground look at what's happening in Ukraine. Michael speaks with General Mark Hertling about whether or not Putin will use nuclear weapons as a last resort and why the Russians are losing. 

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0:00.0

This is my Mayo

0:05.0

This is my Mayo Copo

0:09.0

Oh baby don't lie for me if I tell you my story don't cry for me

0:15.0

I'll take my time that's fun by me

0:17.0

This is my meo

0:20.0

This is Michael Mayor Copa.

0:26.6

This is Michael Cohen, and you're listening to the Mayacolpa podcast.

0:34.3

As the Ukrainian war enters its third week, it appears that Russia's madman dictator Vladimir Putin badly misjudged his country's ability to impose its will upon the Ukrainian people.

0:40.8

Putin has but one objective to crush the independent Ukrainian state to liquidate or imprison

0:47.2

its most vocal supporters and forced the nation to become a vessel of Moscow.

0:52.8

Russia has crossed so many red lines Mr. Putin has in regards to violating international

0:59.0

norms and laws.

1:00.0

He must be held accountable for his war crimes.

1:03.0

He has committed war crimes and he should be held fully accountable.

1:07.0

We saw that happen after World War II. We said we never allow atrocities to occur again, and we have.

1:14.6

And here you have a major country clearly crossing the line of what is acceptable.

1:21.6

But nearly two weeks into President Putin's invasion of Ukraine, Europe's largest land war since 1945, the image of a Russian military

1:31.2

as one that other countries should fear, let alone emulate, has been shattered.

1:36.7

Keev was the main effort of the several prongs, four prongs, initially that invaded Ukraine,

1:43.7

but it bogged down almost immediately because Vladimir Putin

1:46.7

massively underestimated the capacity of the Ukrainian army to fight, the population to resist,

1:54.1

and the resilience of the Ukrainian government. And those three things together have given the

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