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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Putin is beating our sanctions. Here’s how to stop him.

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Russia is the most sanctioned country in the world. The Ukraine war might have left her internationally isolated and starved of resources – but Putin and his oligarch court are adept at avoiding financial restrictions, cutting side deals that enable them to fund the war and protect their power. Are the West’s sanctions working? How can we tighten them? Is there really any difference between sanctions evasion and international criminal money laundering? And who are Putin’s true allies? Gavin Esler finds out from Maria Shagina – Senior Research Fellow for Economic Sanctions, Standards and Strategy at the International Institute for Strategic Studies – and Ian Garner of Poland’s Pilecki Institute, author of Z Generation: Into the Heart of Russia’s Fascist Youth. • Support This Is Not Drill on Patreon to continue by backing us on Patreon. You’ll get early, ad-free editions, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Our friends is good that we're stronger than ever because this moment history calls for our collective strength.

0:14.4

autocrats on overturn global order.

0:19.3

In Europe, Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine continues.

0:25.6

As NATO allies met in Washington and July, Vladimir Putin was staging his own show of friendship.

0:32.2

He welcomed India's Prime Minister Nerendra

0:34.3

Modi to Moscow. He also took a trip to North Korea. The handshakes and smiles tell

0:39.6

the world Russia is not isolated. But Putin's former career as a KGB officer means he himself

0:48.6

will always try to figure out who his friends are, what they want from him, and whether he can rely on them.

0:54.3

In fact Russia in many ways looks increasingly isolated. Russian athletes of the Olympics are competing

1:00.0

as individuals, not under the Russian flag.

1:03.0

Russia was once in the G8 of big economies.

1:06.0

It's now the G7.

1:08.0

And Putin's Russia faces more sanctions for its conduct

1:11.5

than any nation in history. And yet Russian generals continue

1:16.1

to be able to pour men and resources into the war on Ukraine. In today's episode we ask

1:22.4

how far Putin's deals and alliances of convenience

1:25.5

are helping Russia get round sanctions and provide enough equipment to change

1:30.1

the geopolitical map with consequences for all of Europe.

1:35.0

I'm Gavin Esler and this is not a drill. Oh, yeah. Welcome back. Now, imagine you were Ukraine's President Zellensky visiting NATO's

2:07.2

meeting in America. He was mistakenly introduced by President Joe Biden as

2:11.2

President Putin.

2:14.1

Despite strong support from Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris,

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