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Ukrainecast

Putin and Biden: Will they talk?

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The BBC’s chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet, gives us her take on whether President Biden’s offer to talk may offer a moment for diplomacy, despite an apparent rebuff from Vladimir Putin. A former US marine who heads up the Mozart Group, an unarmed private military company, gives us a graphic depiction of saving civilians behind Russian lines in the Donbass and occupied areas. Jonny Dymond joins us to share his fresh insights into the Russian President as more episodes of Putin drop on BBC Sounds and Radio 4. And we return to the subject of celebrating a Ukrainian Christmas after a listener emailed the podcast to tell us we’d got it all wrong. Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaliy Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Clare Williamson and Luke Radcliff. The technical coordinator was Emma Crowe. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Jonathan Aspinwall. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:05.0

Hello, it's 282 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine.

0:10.4

And time after time on this podcast,

0:13.2

we are trying to understand what makes Vladimir Putin

0:17.2

behave in the way he does.

0:18.7

How does his mind work?

0:20.8

There's no better way of getting that insight

0:25.4

than the Putin podcast, his host, Johnny Diamond,

0:29.8

who wants to tell you about some new episodes

0:32.2

that bring us right up to this present moment.

0:35.2

How could Vladimir put it, get it, so wrong?

0:39.8

I came to it without knowing much about Putin.

0:42.7

I mean, I'd seen all the pictures of him sort of wrestling tigers

0:45.7

and diving for submarines or whatever it is.

0:47.8

And you had a sort of cartoon vision of him,

0:49.8

but I didn't know any of the detail.

0:51.5

And out of this podcast, out of this series

0:54.9

comes this amazing story about him.

0:58.9

I'm still not sure in my own head

1:02.1

why he did what he did.

1:07.6

Keep listening to hear our conversation with Johnny

1:10.0

and about how his understanding of Putin changed.

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