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You don't have to look very far to notice everybody's on their phone more, more and more. And we're going to

talk about what to do about that today. I'm John Fuller, along with Dr. Danny Werta, who leads

our parenting team. And we're going to hear now from Jonathan McKee. He joined Focus on the

Family with Jim Daly to share about how he and his family had to set some boundaries with their

phones and how that led to some pretty incredible memories.

Jonathan, one of the examples that you use is creating a family docking station.

I love that idea.

The only thing, question, you say, put it in mom and dad's bedroom.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, I put it in the kitchen, but, but I, our kids did kind of, you know, trick us many times to go down at one in the morning. So they'd have to come into the bedroom. So I get it. No, it's funny. You say the kitchen. True story. I'm out here recording one of the broadcasts I've done here. I connect with some childhood friend. And my wife and I go connect with her and her husband. And they're like, oh, what were you talking about?

And we brought this subject and the docking station came up. She goes, oh yeah, we used to have one in our kitchen, but that didn't work. I'm like, really, tell me about this. And she tells the story of literally hearing a noise in the middle night, husband going down the stairs with a baseball bat, clicking on the lights, and the teenager is sitting there and they're like, what are you doing? He's like, I just wanted to see if they liked this post that I sent out earlier. So literally, in the middle of the night, was so curious that snuck down the kitchen. So I say the bedroom, and I mean, I even joke with parents in parent workshops. I say, you know, stick it right there in a bedroom and then crush a light bulb on the floor, right there in front of it, right there. And so that way you'll hear when they're sneaking into your bed. No, no, that's not endorsed by focus on the family. Exactly. Don't do that. But the thing is, because they'll do it anyway, they'll walk right across the glass. But, put their shoes on. It's the point is find a place where, where, you know, almost all the research out there says,

hey, if you're going to give your, if you're going to give that 10 year old device, which they don't recommend you do, at least collect the devices, not just smartphones, iPads, computers, that old phone that you forgot you

have that your kid has hidden in their room because they've got it connected to the Wi-Fi

and guess what? It's just like a smartphone. Get all those devices out of the bedroom at night.

And if that means having a docking station in your master bedroom closet where you put all the phones

including yours at night, it's amazing. It's amazing. Now all of a sudden, at night, you could read. Those two kids in the ski lift might actually read a book, you know, because there's nothing else to do. If they're not until they're 20. If they're just scrolling through their phone, they're never going to read a book. But if there's nothing else to do at eight o'clock, I remember with our kids, we literally would be like, well, you guys can either go to bed or you can stay up and read, your choice. And they'd be like, read. Well, let's talk about that. How do you fill that time if you're going to try to persuade them to move to some other activity? You use cookie dough. Now, this is funny. You know, how to use cookie dough to get

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