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BBC Radio 2, 10 to the top. Right, let's welcome Pam Hammond in Romilly in Cheshire. Lovely part of the world that, Cheshire. It is indeed. We're quite close to the peak districts here as well, so we're right on the edge. Yeah, how long you lived there? For 26 years. Very nice indeed. Have you done that

big moaned of soil? Kind of scouts? Yeah. I can't even say it, no. I'd like to say a half,

but I know people that have. Does that count? I'm never going there again. I don't even want to

look at it on a map. Yeah, that's me. I do hear that you do like a bit of camping, though.

I do, yeah, yeah.

We've always kind of caravand or camp, and we now are campervans.

Oh, very good.

And what made you transition from the tent to the camperman?

To be honest, we needed a second vehicle, so that worked as our second vehicle, and less

stuff to carry as well. Are you fair weather campers, or are you not bothered about the

conditions? My rule is if it's above freezing, you can go. Pam, are you all right?

I'm fine. If it's above freezing? Yeah, you can do it. And when you've not been camping,

I believe you bumped into one of Manchester's finest Mick Huttnell.

I did, and I was really huge,

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