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Today, Explained

Pushing the Russians back

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.3 • 10.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

In its biggest victory yet, Ukraine retook its vital port city, Kherson. The Guardian’s Luke Harding calls Russia’s retreat a turning point in the war — but a long, cold winter awaits. This episode was produced by Victoria Chamberlin and Haleema Shah, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In late September Vladimir Putin held a big ceremony in the Kremlin.

0:07.0

Compass, you could say grand if you're being kind, ceremony in a kind of gold-painted reception room

0:14.0

watched by the most important people in this government.

0:17.0

The foreign minister was there, the head of the spy agencies.

0:20.0

And Putin basically says that his own is now, it's a Russian city, it's Russia's forever.

0:25.0

But anyway, if you go forward forever, it turns out to be six weeks.

0:30.0

Tonight, Euphoria in Hadson, a major Ukrainian city, now free from Russian rule.

0:37.0

Ukrainians hugging and kissing their soldiers, treating them as heroes, autographing flags.

0:43.0

On today's plane, how Ukrainian troops pulled off a decisive win in Hersan and humiliated Vladimir Putin.

0:50.0

A rare moment of good news in a war which has caused so much pain.

0:55.0

We love Ukraine!

1:08.0

It's today explained, I'm Noel King and you are?

1:12.0

My name is Luke Harding, I'm a journalist and foreign correspondent with a Guardian newspaper and a writer of books.

1:18.0

Describe Luke if you would where Hersan is and what makes it significant in this war.

1:24.0

Hersan is a port and a city and the south of Ukraine on the Nipra River,

1:30.0

which is a massive river with many tributaries that runs across the country,

1:34.0

basically dividing Ukraine into two halves, east and west.

1:38.0

It's a Russian-speaking city, so people are a native Russian speakers.

1:42.0

It has a population or had a population of about 300,000 people, perhaps a little shy of that,

1:47.0

maybe 280,000 before Vladimir Putin's invasion in February of this year.

1:53.0

Its significance is it was the first and the only major regional administrative capital which the Russians occupied.

2:01.0

It was a jewel, it was a kind of prize and it was a place that they captured very early on in the first days of invasion.

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