Hi, I'm Susie Larson.

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live. Always so honored to get to spend this time with you. In fact, I look forward to bringing

you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk, that deepen your

understanding of God's word, and that heightens your awareness of his very real

presence in your life. I published my first book in the year 2000, and it was at that time the

whole idea of celebrity Christianity, quote, unquote, was becoming a thing. You know, but I knew

where I'd come from, what God had rescued me from, and I didn't at all like the focus on platforms

and celebrity and even

fame under the guise of Christianity. I did at times speak against it. I did my best to guard against it.

And I would even say I probably self-sabotaged at times because I so did not want to go near it.

But one thing I'll just say for me that kept me grounded all those years ago is I read a lot of

Francis Franjepane's work. I read a lot of Francis

Franjapain's work. He was a pastor out of Iowa that just had so much clarity about Christ-likeness,

a fear of the Lord and humility. I immersed myself in his books and scripture, of course,

and it just helped me acquire a taste for the presence of God and the purposes of God. And again,

I'm not saying I did it all

perfect, but I was always aware of it because the contrast to me was so stark as I was

immersing myself in teaching on humility and the fear of God and Christ-likeness. And then you

would see people with, you know, stars in their eyes. I'm going to make a name for myself,

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