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Welcome to How To Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt and today we're discussing pursuing happiness in all the wrong ways.

Yeah, Joel, you know, it's not that there are folks out there who aren't pursuing happiness. They're doing it the way that they think that they should.

They're just looking at all the wrong places. Well, some people are going about it in all the wrong ways.

They're pursuing like actual like their goal. How can I be happier? Which is typically the wrong question to ask if you want to be happy.

That is true. I mean, although that is exactly what we're talking about, but we're going to talk about happiness in a more lasting and in a more fulfilling kind of way.

That's what we're going to be talking about today. And also we are going to talk about money because money certainly plays an important role when it comes to our pursuit of happiness.

Okay, so real quick, before we get into it, Joel, so the neighborhood that we move to, it's great. You know, we like it there. There are a lot of kids running around, which is also a great thing.

It's a lot of fun to see the kids, you know, running around playing. This also means that there are a lot of kids selling stuff.

There's a lot of entrepreneurial kids in your hood, like literally going door to door and being like, hey, would you like to buy some of whatever that they may some bracelets as well as different stands that are set up along the street.

That kind of thing. And there were some neighborhood kids and they had set up like a holiday treats table or stand.

Sounds nice. Sounds festive, right? They were selling hot chocolate for $3 a cup, along with like candy canes and stuff like that.

What is the Starbucks? I'm all for entrepreneurship here, but that's how it's a cup. It's a lot of money.

It kind of blew me away and Kate decided to really love the kids to participate. Yes. And we do, or I'll say that Kate does because she went ahead and purchased a single cup.

You were over there, arms crossed, well, Grinchy Frown. I was, you know, they had the hot chocolate when I came in from work and they were explaining they're like, oh, yeah, we got this. And I was like, oh, yeah, how much really charged? And she told me I couldn't believe it.

And so like what I told her I was like, why didn't you negotiate? I've, because I felt like this was a perfect opportunity to teach them another lesson. Well, I mean, just to talk about it a little bit and not just be like, okay, whatever you say.

But literally to push back a little bit and you don't have to be a jerk about it. Right? Like you can be like, oh man, $3.

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