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Welcome to the gospel coalition podcast, equipping the next generation of believers, pastors, and church leaders to shape life and ministry around the gospel.

On today's episode, you'll hear a conversation between Mike Krueger and Jen Wilkin.

This message was originally recorded at TGC's 2021 National Conference.

Well, welcome and good afternoon. Great to see all of you here.

Welcome to this session here. The title is, does grace oppose hard work, a conversation about legalism, moralism, and the gospel.

And I'm joined by my friend Jen Wilkin here who really needs no introduction in this circle of people.

But you know her as an author, speaker, writer, and on the staff of the village church in Dallas, Texas.

And my name is Mike Krueger. I'm the president of Reform Theological Seminary.

And Jen, I just got to start by saying how excited I am to do this.

We have a backstory here. We're going to share in a moment how we got here.

But I just thrilled to finally have a chance to have this conversation and on this topic today.

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