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Purpose is a verb: How to practice intentional leadership, with Ira Bedzow

Modern Mentor

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Careers, Business, Management

4.3726 Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

878. We often talk about "finding" our purpose as if it’s a destination on a map. But what if purpose isn’t a noun, but a verb? This week, Rachel talks with Ira Bedzow, Executive Director of the Emory Purpose Project. They discuss why purpose belongs in every industry—from real estate to healthcare—and how leaders can move away from "shoulds" to focus on what they actually want to cultivate. Learn how to build your "reflection muscle" and use the power of listening to create a culture where people truly matter.

Learn more about Ira Bedzow and the Emory Purpose Project here

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Rachel Cook, your modern mentor. I'm the founder of Lead Above Noise, where we help

0:24.1

leaders tweak how their teams do the work so that results stay strong and engagement and

0:29.0

well-being thrive inside the work. When leaders struggle with this, no one wins. I would love to

0:35.0

come speak at your next event or offsite to deliver the clarity,

0:38.7

confidence, and tools your leaders need to bring this shift to life.

0:43.0

Reach out today at leadabovenoise.com slash connect. So today it is my pleasure to bring you a

0:50.3

conversation that I think is the perfect way to start off a new year. At this moment when so many

0:56.8

of us are thinking about what we want and who we want to be and how we show up. Today, I get to

1:02.5

share with you a chat that I had with Ira Bedzo. Ira is the executive director of the Emery Purpose

1:08.9

Project and a professor at Emory's Goisweta Business School,

1:12.9

the School of Medicine, and the Center for Ethics. He's a leading voice on purpose-driven

1:17.8

leadership and ethical decision-making, basically how we align our choices with our values

1:23.3

and actually live with intention. And here's the thing. Purpose and ethics can sound like really lofty concepts.

1:31.5

But Ira makes them active.

1:33.8

Not the things we hope for, but the things we cultivate.

1:37.2

And he shares some really tangible ways that any of us can start building what he calls

1:42.1

a muscle for reflection right now. So dive in and enjoy.

1:49.3

So Ira Betzo, professor at the Goisweta Business School at Emory University, what an absolute

1:56.7

pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here today. Oh, it's my pleasure.

2:01.2

I'm really looking forward to this. Ah, amazing. So, Ira, as you know, but as my listeners will not know,

2:08.4

I found you through a little bit of selfish, gentle creeping. As I mentioned to you in our first

2:15.0

conversation, my daughter happens to be a student at Emory University.

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