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Welcome to Cyberwire X, where we unpack the critical conversations shaping cybersecurity today.

I'm Dave Bittner.

In this sponsored episode, we're diving into the world of purple teaming,

where offense meets defense to strengthen enterprise security.

At the heart of this strategy, our red and blue teams, one simulates

real world attacks, the other defends against them. But the real magic happens when they team up.

Joining us today are two leaders from Adobe's security organization, Justin Tiblitsky, director of

Red Team, and Yvonne Koshkin, senior detection engineer.

They'll share how Adobe's red and blue teams collaborate every day, not just to test and defend,

but to learn, adapt, and outpace evolving threats.

From real-world examples to practical advice, this conversation sheds light on how purple teaming can refine controls, boost detection, and make enterprise security more resilient.

Let's jump in.

Well, to kick things off, I'd really love each of you to introduce yourselves and your roles at Adobe and how you came to be a part of this red and blue collaboration.

Ivan, will you start for us, please?

Yeah, so I've been working at Adobe for the last almost four years now and started within the kind of standard SOC development team doing a lot of triage, kind of transition into more

of a detection engineer role. And over time, as we're maturing that program, kind of a natural evolution of the whole process is trying to collaborate more with

adversary emulation teams, especially the red team. So over time, we've kind of developed a relationship and identified how to improve our collaboration. And it's grown into something that's become very fruitful.

Justin, how about you?

Yeah, so I joined Adobe in 2021 with the intention of building the red team from the ground up.

So previous to that, I had been into it and had the opportunity to be one of the first

red teamers there.

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