Summary
Nobody wants to be a stick waving old man, but what happens when it’s that stick waving old man who’s telling young people to loosen up? After a series of studies from 2021 reported that teenagers are having less sex than the generations before them, a strange phenomenon has unfolded on the internet. Younger people are being morally conservative, older people are responding by calling younger people “puriteens” (puritanical teens), and then other older people are calling those older people “stick waving old men”. In this Patreon bonus episode, Hannah and Maia wade through the muddy waters of this discourse, and attempt to find nuance in what has become a full on panic from all sides. What the hell happened here? Tangents include: Hannah travelling 5 hours to see DJ James Kennedy in Ottawa, and Maia telling everyone in middle school she had an “orgasm” at the New Moon premiere.
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| 0:00.0 | we'll get into these conversations a bit later but like when people bring up like oh that our media is so |
| 0:04.6 | hypersexual they often reference like the c w and how these shows always include sex in in teen |
| 0:10.6 | teenage content and it's like yes but it's never sex like like in gossip girl people say gossip |
| 0:18.2 | girl's hypersexual and it's like okay but in gossip girl when they're having sex they never actually having sex. We don't see them do anything. No. They, like, neck a bit, and they're wearing these strange lingerie, like, granny lingerie. And it's just, it's not what sex looks like. It's not really sexy. It's not sexual. And the same goes for many CW shows. Like like Riverdale doesn't have sex in it. |
| 0:38.2 | Well, no, like there's the strong limitations of what you can show. |
| 0:42.0 | And it's like, well, Riverdale also came a little later. |
| 0:45.2 | But I think like Gossip Girl especially, it was like the characters have sex and like are often very much like shamed for it. |
| 0:53.9 | Like there's also almost always like some kind of kind of, like, consequence to that as well. And, like, gossip girl was also, like, meant to kind of cash in on anxieties around all of that kind of stuff. Like, Serena also did cocaine at, like, 15. And, like, they were they were like getting drunk at the bar. |
| 1:11.9 | Like there's so many other things going on. |
| 1:13.5 | I don't know. |
| 1:13.8 | When you're a rich kid. |
| 1:15.1 | Yes. |
| 1:16.0 | Well, yes. |
| 1:17.1 | I do think Twilight sort of becoming more of like a sexy thing. |
| 1:22.8 | I think kind of signaled the turn that would take place in the 2010s and kind of brought us into the era |
| 1:32.1 | that we were teenagers in and which I feel like had such like a vastly different approach to sex |
| 1:39.0 | than like the previous decade. Like I feel like the change. I mean, we were in pretty like liberal circles, but I feel like at least for us like the previous decade. Like I feel like the change, I mean, we, we were in pretty like |
| 1:45.2 | liberal circles, but I feel like, at least for us, like the change, it went from like slut |
| 1:50.0 | shaming to like, don't slut shame. Yeah. Well, we've talked about this endlessly on the podcast, |
| 1:54.8 | but like, and we'll get into it with my section, but yeah, there was a sexual revolution |
| 1:59.6 | that happened and it was in the span of like |
| 2:01.1 | one or two years and I found it very beneficial in many ways like a very necessary reaction to |
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