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Issues, Etc.

Purgatory – Dr. Jordan Cooper, 6/10/26 (1613)

Issues, Etc.

Lutheran Public Radio

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Be strong and courageous. Those are the words that the Lord spoke to Joshua as he was sending

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him across the Jordan to take possession of the promised land. Pastor Brian Wolf Miller talking

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about his presentation at the 26 issues, etc. making the case conference. Where does that courage

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come from? From Joshua's strength? From the number of soldiers? No, from the promise,

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I will not leave you or forsake you. The Christian is courageous to face all of the troubles of

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this world, not because we're strong, not because we can resist the world and the flesh and the devil

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on our own, but because the

0:38.4

Lord is with us. The Lord fights for us. The Lord keeps us through all the troubles of life into the

0:44.3

joy and hope of the life to come. You can meet and hear Pastor Brian Wolf-Miller making the case

0:50.3

for Christian Courage at this year's Making the Case Conference June 12th and 13th

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at Concordia University Chicago. Learn more at Issuezc.org.

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The term purgatory has kind of a colloquial meaning.

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It's a place of punishment.

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If someone gets put in purgatory in a relationship, it means they're in the doghouse.

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Is that what God intends for us when we leave this life headed for eternal life to be,

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at least temporarily, maybe a million or two years, in the dog house with him? Suffering some kind

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of punishment before eternal life. Welcome back to Issues Cedar. I'm Todd Wilkin,

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joining us to talk about the Roman Catholic teaching of purgatory.

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Dr. Jordan Cooper, Executive Director of Just and Sinner,

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Professor of Systematic Theology at American Lutheran Theological Seminary,

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author of several books, including his latest Lutheranism for non-Lutherans,

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and host of a recent video

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