I listen to Sarah and Beth because I can count on them to bring multiple perspectives to an issue or current event.

From people with actual moral virtues who might feel comfortable being around my kids.

Sarah and Beth do such a tremendous job of listening to each other and to opinions that don't immediately align with their own.

They've done their homework. They ask good questions and they aren't afraid to change their

minds. This is Sarah Stewart-Hollin. This is Beth Silvers. You're listening to Pantsuit

Politics today. We're going to catch up on the headlines before moving to a discussion on punishment and accountability based on two recent cases, one involving

the killing of a family of four in San Francisco, and one involving teenagers and AI porn.

Outside of politics, we're going to continue with the theme, and we're going to talk about

whether or not we believe in karma.

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All the information is in the show notes. Next step, let's tackle some headlines.

Beth, I hate doing the news brief right now because I have to show up and say another day, another day of headlines full of war and global energy crisis.

And it's just frustrating.

You can't depend on anything he says about the length of this war, which they've been

promising would be two to four weeks for approximately two to four weeks.

And, you know, he continues to sort of lie about wrapping it up while clearly preparing to

escalate.

Ten thousand troops being sent to the area is an escalation in my book.

Anyway, you slice it.

When I saw the church prayer list include requests for prayers for someone's relative being deployed, I thought, that's how we know this is a war. They can call it whatever they want to, but that's, this is a war. And it is breaking through into our lives, not just at the gas

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