Hello? Hi, Rosabel. I know that you and I talked mere moments ago, but I forgot that I had a

question about, for the podcast, I'm calling you back. Oh, are you recording me right now? Yeah.

Oh, it's very shocking. Do you sort of do a mental shift in your mind when you know that I'm recording you?

I guess I'm a little bit more wary about the things I say because I don't want to get cancelled.

You know that people could be recording you any time.

You've always got to remember that, don't you?

Nobody wants to listen to the conversation that we just had yeah i actually agree with that

um we're doing an episode about pumpkin pie and pumpkin pie i understand is deeply american

have you ever had a pumpkin pie i think so so. I think I have had...

The pause was so big I thought you'd gone.

I wanted to be truthful, and I understand the idea of a pumpkin pie, and I was trying to

remember if I have had one, but I did have one Thanksgiving in America, so I'm pretty

sure I had a pumpkin pie then.

Ah, right. So the only time you've had a pumpkin pie was when you visited the United States. Yeah, you can't get it here. I didn't actually even really think about that. You probably can. Oh, maybe you can. You probably can. I shouldn't have said that. I guess one other question I had for you, you know, I harp on about this a lot, but in New Zealand, when you say pie, generally, it's sort of a meaty pie. Yes. Do you think that's sort of accurate in New Zealand? There are fruit pies, but if you say pie in Al-Tiro, it means a meat pie. It's probably the most confusing thing about America. I'm David Farrier, in New Zealand

are accidentally marooned in America, and I want to figure out what makes this country tick.

Now, as Roosevelt pointed out, pumpkin pie isn't really a thing in New Zealand where I'm from.

We eat savory meat pies like normal people. Now, as my understanding, pumpkin pie is a Thanksgiving thing as well.

So with Thanksgiving upon us, it seemed appropriate to do a pumpkin pie episode today.

I don't really know what else to say because I don't really know anything about pumpkin pies.

So go to your pumpkin patch and grab your nearest pumpkin because this is the pumpkin pie episode.

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