Pulling the Thread: On Finding Our Soul's Vocation
Hard Feelings with Jennette McCurdy
Lemonada Media
4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 December 2025
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
This week we're introducing you to Pulling the Thread, hosted by writer Elise Loehnen, who explores life's big questions with today's leading thinking, experts and luminaries: Why do we do what we do? How can we understand and love ourselves better? What would it look like to come together and build a more meaningful world?
In today's episode we're joined by James Hollis, PhD is a Jungian analyst who is still in private practice in Washington D.C. Hollis started his career as a professor of humanities before a midlife crisis brought him to his knees—and to the Jung Institute in Zurich. The author of 19 books, Hollis is one of the best interpreters of Carl Jung’s work, making it accessible for all of us who want to understand how complexes, archetypes, synchronicities, and the shadow drive our lives.
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MORE FROM JAMES HOLLIS, PhD:
Why Good People Do Bad Things: Understanding Our Darker Selves
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A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity
The Broken Mirror: Refracted Visions of Ourselves
James Hollis’s Website
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| 1:14.1 | Hi, it's Elise Lunan host of Pulling the Thread. |
| 1:20.4 | Today, I'm joined by James Hollis, one of the finest Jungian analysts to live. |
| 1:24.7 | This is one of my very favorite pulling the thread conversations to date. |
| 1:37.4 | Music conversations to date. Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of Pulling the Thread. On this show, we pull apart the web in which |
| 1:43.1 | we all live to understand who we are and why we're here. Pulling the thread. On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are |
| 1:45.8 | and why we're here. Pulling the thread is about big questions, why we do what we do, how we can |
| 1:51.8 | understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual and historical context, the ways in which we |
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