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Words Matter

Pulling the Stefanik Nomination is a Sign MAGA is Scared

Words Matter

Riley Fessler

News, Government

4.62.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Signal-gate has dominated the news cycle over the past few days, but it's not the only thing going on in this administration. Trump is issuing executive orders, RFK Jr. is gutting HHS and state health programs, JD Vance is on his way to Greenland, and the White House just pulled Elise Stefanik’s nomination. Is MAGA realizing they are more politically vulnerable than before? Tune in as Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf discuss all this and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.1

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0:45.8

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio

0:51.7

in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.,

0:56.9

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

1:03.5

Hello and welcome to DSR's Words Matter.

1:07.0

I'm David Rothkopf, and as always, I am joined by Norm Ornstein. How are you doing today, Norm?

1:13.9

Well, I was hoping I'd be doing better, David, but the revelations, the lies, the deceit, the incompetence, the recklessness, the dangers to American national security.

1:32.7

They just keep piling up and it makes me hard to feel good about anything, except it's no day.

1:33.6

And you're just talking about DSR management there.

1:36.6

It has nothing.

1:39.4

No, I understand.

1:42.1

You know, on a lot of our podcasts this week, we've been talking about signal gate, as it has been dubbed.

1:48.7

Yeah.

1:49.2

Although, frankly, I think we've hit the sell-by-date on putting gate at the end of every scandal.

1:54.4

But that's just a personal point of you.

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