Hello, good morning, good evening, good afternoon. Welcome to the latest edition of the For The Many podcast with me, Ian Dale.

And me, Jackie Smith. And you are in celebratory mood because you've been watching the rugby? I have.

Listeners, you know how keen or not keen Ian is on rugby and I'm afraid I delayed the recording

of our podcast by 10 minutes so I could finish watching Wales. It was bloody, it was 2019 Ian. I mean,

it was really, really exciting. Not as exciting as England

beating Australia, I imagine. By a significantly larger margin. Yes. They're quite good,

aren't they, Australia? Yes, Ian, they are quite good. Do they score lots of tries and

well done? Sort of have good rucks?

Yeah, I knew it wouldn't take you long to get a ruck into the...

Not only do they ruck, they mall as well, you'll be pleased to hear.

Well, as you know, I've always said rugby's a game for latent homosexuals.

Yes, you do keep saying now.

I do keep being cross with you every time you do.

Well, I should know.

Mind you, at school...

You're not latent though, are you?

No, I know, but I was at one point, and even then I didn't like rugby.

Are you a bit of a soft...

Are you a bit sort of physically soft?

Depends which part and in what circumstances.

I don't particularly like violence on a sporting field.

That's why I would ban boxing.

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