“Public sentiment is everything”

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Pivoting off President Abraham Lincoln’s famous maxim, the Feds consider the state of public opinion about the current President’s many serious transgressions. What explains the apparent indifference of wide swaths of the American public to the President’s assault on constitutional values and the rule of law? What are the prospects for Mueller’s upcoming testimony or other events to break through the apparent impasse? And is there a moral obligation to push back on the constitutional outrages whether or not there are reasonable prospects of changing the current calculus? Harry is joined by Barbara McQuade, Frank Figliuzzi and Julie Zebrak. And stay tuned after the discussion for a preview of the Talking Feds live event July 8-11 in Washington, DC. bit.ly/fedslive See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Talking Feds is coming to Washington DC for six live podcasts tapings with a phenomenal array of commentators July 8th through 11th.
0:12.5	Stay tuned after the discussion for more details.
0:16.7	Welcome to a holiday weekend episode of Talking Feds, a prosecutor's round table that brings together some of the best known former Department of Justice officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day.
0:37.7	This holiday weekend, we're taking a little pause from the ongoing discussion of current events.
0:43.7	We're going to have a mini episode to talk about a quote from a certain former president that many people these days are taking to sum up where things stand.
0:55.7	The quote, public sentiment is everything.
0:59.7	With public sentiment, nothing can fail without it, nothing can succeed.
1:05.7	The president who said it, of course, Abraham Lincoln.
1:09.7	I'm Harry Littman. I'm a former United States attorney and deputy assistant attorney general and a current Washington Post columnist.
1:18.7	I'm joined by three well-known Feds who, along with the rest of us, have been thinking hard about Lincoln's idea.
1:28.7	First, Barbara McQuade returns to Talking Feds. Barb was the United States attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan and she is currently a professor from practice at the University of Michigan Law School.
1:42.7	On July 3rd, Barb tweeted a very pertinent Abraham Lincoln quote,
1:48.7	America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
1:57.7	Welcome back, Barb. We'll return to that quote and what you had in mind with it in a moment.
2:02.7	Thanks, Harry. Thanks for inviting me to the conversation.
2:05.7	We're also joined by returning Fed Frank Figley-Uzi. Frank served for 25 years in the FBI. He retired as the assistant director of the Bureau's Counter Intelligence Division in 2012.
2:19.7	He's led teams from Atlanta to San Francisco, including an office in Silicon Valley, exclusively devoted to counter intelligence.
2:29.7	Welcome back, Frank. Happy holiday weekend and thanks for joining us.
2:33.7	It's my pleasure, Harry. Good to be back.
2:35.7	And finally, Julie Z. Brack returns to Talking Feds. Julie served in the Department of Justice for some 18 years in many roles, including Deputy Chief of Staff to the Deputy Attorney General, as well as Agency Council for the Criminal Division.
2:52.7	Very nice to have you again, Julie. Welcome back.
2:55.7	So glad to be here, Harry.
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