A number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing.

They're following asymptomatic cases, they're following contacts, and they're not finding secondary transmission onward.

It's very rare. We are constantly looking at this data, and we're trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question.

It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.

As the kids say, wait, what?

That was a WHO doctor saying, if you got no symptoms, it's very, very rare to give anybody else the disease, which is one of the basic ideas behind the giant shutdown.

After we stopped flattening the curve and just became obsessed with avoiding cases.

Anyway, to discuss that and many other related topics, please welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show, the most terrific Lonheed J. Chen,

David and Diane Steffi, fellow in American public policy studies at the Hoover institution. Lonheed, how are you, sir?

Good job. Well, good to talk to you. Likewise. Yeah, thanks for coming on today.

Listen, I think we're all a little too very, very frustrated, depending on the impacts in our lives, with these county and state health officials who have been granted dictatorial powers during an alleged emergency.

You're taking where do we start? I mean, my favorite is the is the amount of what seems to be completely arbitrary rulemaking, right?

Oh, yeah. You know, conscious, conscious, the county, which is not that far from where you are not that far from where I am.

May have a rule that basically says you can get 12 people together in your backyard for a social gathering, as long as it's the same 12 people, what they call a stable group.

Or you can have a protest of up to 100. Tell me how that makes any sense. Tell me how that makes any sense at all. I mean, this is what frustrates people. It's not that people don't want to listen.

It's not that people have a natural inclination to want to disrespect authority. It's that people don't like the fact that there is no consistency.

And there's just rampant hypocrisy amongst these public health officials. That's why people are upset.

Well, Jack, if you were here, would bring up the fact that and we've seen this in county after county, you know, barber shops can open on Wednesday, then restaurants on Friday, but you you rotten bastards, fix and lawnmowers or whatever.

You got to wait till next Tuesday. And it's just it's arbitrary and ridiculous. And it seems to be entirely independent of how many hospitalizations and debts are in a particular area.

Yeah, and it's you know, I think it's just this sort of notion that the government is going to decide what is acceptable and unacceptable activity without any reference point that seems anywhere close to something that that looks like science.

I think that's what frustrates people is the sense that, okay, you know, it's one thing if governments said, look, we have a reasonable explanation for why you can only get a haircut on Tuesdays.

And why you can only fix your car on Thursdays, but that's not even the case. They're even pretending to have an explanation as to why things are acceptable one day or another.

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