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Pablo Torre Finds Out

Pablo Torre, Le Batard & Friends

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4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

As the NFL returns, Pablo and Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio are back with more secret documents, a federal investigation, new government names, billions of union dollars, an O.J. Simpson parking space, the world’s largest strip club... and one big "clusterf*ck." Does the OneTeam Partners saga connect to a Game of Thrones-style power play by the NFLPA's shadow boss? Or could the feds be on the trail of an even bigger scandal? • Part One: The NFL's Secret Collusion Case, Revealed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P42Wq3fmTYg • Part Two: We Got Another Secret Union Document — and Smoked Out Another Cover-Up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P42Wq3fmTYg • Read our latest NFL document on Pablo's subscribers-only newsletter: https://www.pablo.show/subscribe • Pre-order "Big Shield" by Mike Florio https://www.amazon.com/Big-Shield-Mike-Florio-ebook/dp/B0FGH43V6D • Ex-NFLPA boss Howell's strip club expenses sent to investigator (Don Van Natta Jr. and Kalyn Kahler) https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45703132/nflpa-nfl-agreed-keep-collusion-findings-secret • "If he failed, their process failed": Inside the NFLPA meltdown (Don Van Natta Jr. and Kalyn Kahler) https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45800610/inside-nflpa-executive-director-lloyd-howell-tenure Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
0:07.2	Journalism sucks. Right after this ad.
0:18.1	This is an emergency episode, Mike. I don't know how else to put it. Yes, straighten up your back. I'm coming to you from home. I have the sheaf of documents still with me. And I was worried at the outset of like, do we really do a third episode about the biggest crisis in the history of the NFL Players Association? And yes, fuck yes is the answer.
0:38.6	Yeah, I went through the same thing.
0:41.1	The first one went over so well.
0:43.8	The second one, in a roundabout way,
0:46.7	contributed to some pretty serious action on the back end.
0:51.4	But the more time we've spent talking about it and thinking about it, and I think
0:56.3	to the extent we're trying to come up with through lines and have a thread that maybe
1:01.9	explains a lot of weird things, I think we're getting closer and closer to it. But first,
1:08.3	I do just want to catch people up because, yes, on the evening of Thursday, July 17th, the night we published episode two in our trilogy, this happened.
1:17.7	The NFL Players Association executive director, Lloyd Howell, resigned late Thursday, ending his two-year tenure as the leader of the Players Union.
1:26.4	Pardon the eruption, but I'm Pablo Torre, and I am pleased to be back on PTI with you, Tony.
1:31.0	Tony Kornheiser.
1:32.4	You know, just turned off the television, Lloyd Howell.
1:35.8	Yeah, he's out.
1:36.9	He submitted a statement.
1:39.3	It's clear that my leadership has become a distraction to the important work the NFLPA advances every day.
1:48.3	And then you hear about the collusion and then you hear about the loss cases about, you know,
1:52.0	how they're telling the players they need to fake injuries or the hold end, you go out of that and you get your money.
1:56.3	It's just, it's just a mess right now.
1:58.2	It's a mess.
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