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Subscribe now. Hello, welcome back to episode 49 of the podcast to be named later.

I am Chris Willis, and I am joined tonight by my good friend, Stephen Talbert.

Steven's been a while since you and I were on here together.

I hope you're doing well.

It's good to be back with you.

What's up, Chris?

Yeah, buddy, it's been a minute.

We had the All-Star break, and then Sean and I did the last one, buddy, it's been a minute. We had the all-star break, and then

Sean and I did the last one, and so it's been probably two, three weeks since you and I have

been on together, but yeah, it's great to be on with you, man. It's been a weird stretch of baseball

for the Braves. I wouldn't say it's been a good stretch. It definitely wouldn't better today. But yeah, we're going to get into all of it. There's plenty to talk about, but it's great to be on with you, man.

Yeah, it's always good to get back on here after a win, you know,

because things were looking dark there, which we'll talk about in just a minute.

But, yeah, I mean, four-game losing street coming into Sunday's game,

two losses against the white shots two losses against

the diamond bites uh two straight series losses um you know it just seems like after we had that

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