I'm Ashley C. Ford, and I host Into the Mix, a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Vox Creative.

For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. Welcome back to another episode of the podcast we named later.

Welcome back to another episode of the podcast we named later.

I'm Chris Willis, and I'm again joined by my good friend, Stephen Taubbert.

Stephen, I appreciate you guys filling in for me last week.

It's good to be back with you.

What's up, Chris?

Yeah, buddy.

It's good to have you back.

Obviously, Scott did a fantastic job pinch hitting last week when you were away, but it's always good to have you back obviously scott did a fantastic job pinch hitting last week when you were away but it's always good to have you back it's been a minute since you and i have done

one of these and and there's obviously there's obviously some things to discuss yeah no doubt and

i mean this has been a crazy week uh it's been full of ups and downs and i mean i just got one

question for you i I mean, how did

we even get here? That's what I'm trying to figure out, because this is long and winding road.

Obviously, you know, I think we got to start with shortstop tonight because, you know, it's

went, I mean, you and I, I know I said this about three episodes ago. I was like, this was supposed to be a competition, and it's turned into not a competition,

because Von Grissom was the, you know, to me, was the penciled in for opening day.

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